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Question:  Hi Jayce- we are picking up veggie scraps from Food for Less and there has been ginger roots in it- I have picked them out  as didn't know if they are harmful to pigs or not - I wondered if you knew? thanks Suzy

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Hi Suzy
Well I dont know a lot about ginger root so have done some web searching and this is what I have found.
Ginger contains pungent phenols called gingerols and shogaols.
Ginger is attributed to be useful for its anti-inflammatory properties, antiseptic qualities, may improve circulation, can aid digestion in humans.
Ginger is diaphoretic - causes humans to sweat more. As pigs dont sweat I am not sure what effect this would have in pigs - may make them feel warmer perhaps so maybe not good for them in summer heat - just guessing here.
A medical website said ginger should not be given to children under 2 so do not give to piglets.
The dose rate for 70kg human adult was not more than 4 gm per day. Since pig digestive system remarkably similar to human I would abide by that recommendation.
Persons less than 70 kg were advised to consume proportionally less for example a 50kg person was advised to consume only 50/70  or five sevenths of 4 grams which is 2.9gms.
I think you are doing the right thing removing the ginger root. If you are interested to find out if ginger has a role in pig health I suggest you make contact with a vet who is interested in homeopathic or complimentary medicine for animals.
I hope this has been useful.
Regards
 
Jayce
 

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Question:  Hi, I am researching minipigs as a pet in a suburban area.  Can you tell me: 1) When compared to a barking dog, do pigs make much noise? 2) Can they be left alone during the day without traumatising them? 3) How much exercise do they need?

Thanks

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Hi David
Pigs will squeal when excited, frustrated, in pain or scared. Environment and experience will affect their noise making - there is no reason to assume they would be worse than a dog. Group pig squeals at feeding time can be as loud as 100 dB which is up there with a circular saw; however I cant find a figure for a single pig so it possibly not as loud. Frequency of squeals and time of day that the pig squeals are likely to be most important in closely settled areas.
Also people are less tolerant of pigs and many find their feces odour very offensive. I get many calls from people complaining about the smell and flies.
Regulation wise it appears to depend upon the council how the laws are interpreted - the local government act section 124 gives council the power to refuse to permit pigs in sensitive areas such as catchment areas. The Local Government General Regulations 2005 Schedule 2 states that pigs and their manure should be 60 m from human habitation (dwellings, shops, schools etc) - so on the space factor pigs really don't belong in suburbia.
As for exercise I guess it depends on the individual - and attention given by the owner. Some will be content to be lazy and some will benefit from games and walks. Training then is the key factor - use a harness and start short distance so you and pig learn to understand each other. Train with treats as rewards.

I hope that helps..
Regards
 
Jayce
 

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Question:  Hi, I'm thinking about getting a pair of miniature pigs. The female is black, male white. He is the smaller of the 2. They're about 5-6 months old at about 30-35cm tall. Can you estimate the size they will grow too if fed properly? Also what are the costs for registration with council, worming & general care? I'm in Canowindra NSW (not far from you).

Cheers. Any info is appreciated.

Debbie

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Debbie
Humble apologies for taking so long to reply.
Without seeing the pigs or their parents or knowing what they were being fed and what they will be fed I cannot speculate what size they will grow to. Unfortunately there are always some 'miniature' pigs that grow larger than expected. The ones I have heard about tend to grow to  about 70 cm tall and weigh in vicinity of 90-120 kgs.  They are smaller than a full size adult pig but bigger than expected. Pigs are still growing and maturing until they are about 3 years old.
To my knowledge there is no registration fee for pigs with councils but there are provisions within the local government act and regulations for councils to  prohibit the keeping of pigs. Councils seem to interpret the Act and Regulations differently with some posing strict guidelines and others seeming not to care. If you are in a closely settled area you should make sure noise and odour are kept to a minimum. The local government regulation 2005 does state that pigs and their manure should be 60 metres from human habitation so make sure there is a good space between your pigs and your neighbours. Some people find the odour of pig manure very offensive so be considerate of your neighbours.
There are several products for worming pigs that can be added to food or water - most produce places that sell poultry products would carry them as some are suitable for use for pigs and poultry. Always read the label if in doubt. The best worm control is prevention of infestation. Keep their area clean of manure - if possible rotate their area to give the grass area a rest. Pigs get worms from ingesting worm eggs or larvae which can build up in over used or unclean areas.
It is a good idea to get your pigs vaccinated for leptospirosis and parvovirus if you expect to be handling them a lot as both these diseases can be contagious to humans. Unfortunately I think these vaccines dont come any smaller than 100ml bottles and don't keep very long so this could be the most costly aspect of keeping pigs for you. You may have to cooperate with some other pig owners and have a joint vaccination day. You can source these vaccines through your local vet or through Country Vet phone 1800 426 142 or website: www.countryvet.com.au
Trish Holyoake is a pig vet with Industry and Investment NSW - Trish can help with information and tell you what you need.
Be aware that the feeding of swill is illegal - swill includes table scraps or bakery products that contain meat products. The only meat product that is allowed to be fed to pigs is in the form of properly rendered meat meal.
I hope this has been useful.
Regards
 
Jayce
 

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Question:  Hi - my question has nothing to do with pigs themselves - but the 'pig poles' American show people use to direct their pigs during a show. I can purchase them in the USA - but there must be a contact here in Oz. Apparently they come on all colours - and it is the 'neon' ones we are interested in. Any hints on where we can start ?

Kind regards Mark Naumann

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Answer:-

Hi Mark
I have not seen the poles you speak of but you could try Vaucluse Livestock Equipment

phone 08 8380 5672 website: www.vaucluse-aps.com.au
OR
Stockyard Industries phone 07 7469 3344 website: www.stockyardindustries.com
Regards
Jayce

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Question:  Hello,I was wondering if anyone in Australia breeds mini juliana pigs?

Thanks,Emma.

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Apologies for the delayed response. Unfortunately I am not aware of anyone breeding mini juilana pigs in Australia. These appear to be a distinct breed in the USA with a specific pattern and colour marking. There is no importing of genetic material from overseas due to biosecurity reasons. There may be breeders with MPPPA who have similarly coloured pigs to the mini juliana but you would need to contact the MPPPA.
Regards
 
Jayce
 

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Question:   Hello Jayce, I am very interested in a miniature pig as a family pet. I have found out that it is against council rules in my area (Old Bar mid north NSW. I have also heard that may be changing. Could you if possible let me know what the situation is, if it will be legal in 6 months for example I will hold off on researching a different choice of pet. Also if I can follow updates about keeping mini pigs myself can you tell me where I can do that.

 Thank You kindly. Terry (mini Pigs latest big fan)

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Hi Terry

I am unaware of pending changes to the legislation affecting council operations or regulations - that does not mean that submissions for change have not been made.

You should think carefully before buying a pig as a pet. Peoples expectations and the reality do not always match. Unfortunately not all pigs sold as "miniature" remain small and this can cause problems.

Always check with your local council before selecting a pig as a pet. You should also consider your neighbours - not everyone will have the same degree of enthusiasm as your self.

There is no distinction between pet pigs and commercial pigs in NSW. As such the Stock Diseases Regulation 2009 pertains to all pigs. For example pig movements must be accompanied by relevant documentation such as the PigPass NVD which are obtained by registration on the PigPass website. The sections of the regulation pertaining to pigs can be found at http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/livestock/pigs/health/regulation
Regards
 
Jayce

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Question:   Could you tell me when micro pigs will start breeding in Australia?

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Hi Saskia and Liefke

For biosecurity reasons Australia does not import pig genetics from overseas countries. I do not know of any breeder in this country claiming to breed micro pigs. The only micro pigs I have heard about originated in the UK.
Regards
 
Jayce

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Question:   Hi! I have a 4 month old pig who does this
squeaking noise w/ his mouth constantly!! How can we get him to stop??
Thanks!
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Hi Heather

I am not sure what you mean by a constant squeaking noise. First I would suggest you take your pig to a vet - there might be an obstruction in an airway that could cause the squeaking. Whilst pigs can be very vocal it is unusual for them to do it all the time. Otherwise without seeing the pig first hand I can make no further comment.
Regards
 
Jayce

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Question:   Our miniature pig does not like water at all and squeals all the time if outside, how do we wash her and get her to stop all the noise??

Thankyou

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Answer:-

Natasha

Apologies for the delay in replying to your question.

Your pig's reaction to water could be fear related to a bad experience when young or fear of the unknown. Either way you need patience and persistence and start with a wet sponge to get the worst of the dirt off. When the hot weather comes and it realises the relief from the heat that water gives it may be a different pig - it might be in the water all the time.
As for the squealing when outside - pigs are social animals - if you have had the pig inside all the time when it was small you have become its herd mates and your pig  wants to be with its herd mates. The squealing could be separation anxiety. Again patience and persistence - build an enclosure for your pig outside and put the pig in there when you are outside - start for small amounts of time and train your pig that it will be safe if separated from you. Start with 5 or 10 minutes and build up the length of time. Once it realises it cannot do just what it wants when it wants but is safe and it knows you are still around begin by going inside for 5-10 minutes and then reappear.

Make sure the pig is safe, has good shelter and water. Toys or another animal to keep it company could help too. Animals are creatures of habit and it takes time to develop new habits. You cannot make sudden changes to routine without consequences. I hope this helps

Regards
 
Jayce

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Question:    Hi Jayce ,could you please tell me if the dna and pedigree papers supplied by the mpppa for a registered pig will be sufficient proof that a pig is not "feral or crossbred" when the dpi is deciding wether or not it needs to be destroyed, under the feral pigs not allowed laws?

cheers Elle

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Hi Elle
I am no expert in DNA profiling.
My understanding is that the DNA profile will be able to be used to prove which pair of pigs were the parents or which pigs maybe siblings.
The only way a DNA profile can be used to determine breed would be the identification of gene markers that are unique to that breed. I dont think enough research work has been done to enable this to happen. As Dr Carr has mentioned in one of his answers most pigs have common  ancestry. Feral pigs are descendants of domestic stock brought to Australia by early settlers.
Will a DNA profile and pedigree papers be sufficient proof that a pig is not feral? Good question.
Breeders have a responsibility to make sure they do not use feral pigs in their breeding programs - it is illegal in NSW.
The formation of breed societies such as the MPPPA helps legitimise the pet pig as a breed and it is important that as a society you establish links with state DPIs and/or LHPA (previously rural lands protection boards in NSW) so that the presence and popularity of pigs as pets is realised.
At present pet pigs tend to be seen as a passing fad or even as a biosecurity threat by the commercial pig industry.  In NSW all legislation that applies to commercial piggeries applies to pet pigs as well. This includes council laws pertaining to where you can have pigs and how much land you need.
I do not know of any objective definitive description of a feral pig that could be used to say yes this pig is feral or no this pig is not. That doesn't mean one has not been created or could not be created.
 
My advice to any intending pet pig owner would be to

  1. be aware of the laws and regulations that apply to pigs in your state including feral pig laws.
  2. Find out as much as you can about the breeder of your pet pig - where their breeding stock came from etc before you buy a pig.
  3. Consult their breed society if they claim to be a member of one.
  4. Records - keep records - purchase records, DNA profiles, veterinary records etc

My advice to pet pig breeders would be

  1. Be aware of the laws and regulations that apply to pigs in your state including feral pig laws.
  2. Do not use feral pigs in your breeding program.
  3. Find out as much as you can about your foundation breeding stock - pedigrees etc.
  4. Join a breed society
  5. Records - keep records - purchase records, DNA profiles, veterinary records etc.

I hope that answers your question.
Regards
Jayce

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Question:    Can you lay a pig down.?

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Hi Gwynn
I am not sure of the context of your question.
If you are asking can you train a pig to lay down then my answer would be yes I am sure you could but I am no animal trainer so cannot tell you how to do it.
Pigs are intelligent animals and I imagine a technique similar to that used with dogs - lots of patience and food rewards would work.
The younger the animal is when you start will probably make it easier also but I would make sure the piglet was no younger than 6 weeks old.
If you are asking if pigs do lie down then the answer is yes but they must be feeling relaxed and comfortable in their surroundings.
If I have missed the meaning of your question I would ask that you supply more information and I will try again.

Regards
Jayce

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Question:    Hello! I live in Russia. In our country there are not enough experts on ìèíè ïèãàì.You could help me with detailed to consultation on breeds? American Minipig; Gottinger Minipig; Wiesenauer; I cannot understand than these breeds differ.Thanks! Yours faithfully, Anna.

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Hi Ann
I am not familiar with the breeds you mention in your email. I have looked on the internet and offer 3 websites for you to look at:
        http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/swine
        http://www.thepigsite.com/info/swinebreeds.php
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pig_breeds
Many pig breeds that claim to be miniature breeds are based on the Vietnamese pot belly pig crossed with a small local variety (often some wild pigs).
Interestingly the pot belly pig can grow to 70 to 90kgs - small compared to commercial pigs but not so small as some people would expect.

Regards
Jayce

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Question:    Are there really minipigs in Australia? How are breeders allowed to sell these pigs as mini when they grow huge? Please answer.

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Dear Annie
There are several issues that I see.
Firstly there is the interpretation of the words "mini" and "miniature", and the customer expectations that the use of these words invokes.
A shetland pony is miniature when standing next to the largest draught horse but is larger than a miniature horse. For some people miniature means pocket sized while others have a better understanding of animals, and their expectations are more realistic. Given that an adult commercial pig can be up to a metre tall and 2 metres long in the body, a pig described as miniature that grew the size of a labrador would be considered by some as a realistic compromise. However for a person expecting a pocket size pig or something the size of a foxie,  this would be a disaster.
Secondly breeders need to determine where the expectations of their customers sit. They then need to be honest with themselves and their customers in recognising whether they are able to deliver the customer expectations. Breeders do have a duty of care to provide the type of animal that they claim to be breeding.
Thirdly the true genetically miniature pigs do not exist in Australia - we are talking here pot bellied pigs and the Kune Kune. These are unlikely to ever be imported due to the biosecurity restrictions to prevent accidental importation of exotic diseases - for example Foot and Mouth disease which is just one of many.
Size can be affected by both genetics and nutrition. If a breeder is using a combination of a controlled diet and careful breeding and selection program, then offspring from this program may grow larger than anticipated when exposed to a different diet regime.
It is a difficult situation for both breeders and pet owners. Pigs make fun pets however to have a successful pet owner relationship you need to learn all you can about pigs before you get one. It is no different than if you were to get a pet snake. You need to learn about the animal before you get one as a pet. That way you have some knowledge of what to expect in size, appetite and behaviour and you can build upon this knowledge as you develop more experience with your pet. I hope this answers your question.

Regards
Jayce

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